There are a few places to go to get (at least US based) government contracts training. Check out NCMAHQ or FedPubSeminars. Be advised both options do have cost involved. I know there are Universities as well (such as Villanova) that provide Government contracts training (again FAR/DFARS based). Hope this helps and don't hesitate to reach out.
• CitizenSteward International LLC
What type of program are interested in (e.g. short training, certification, degree)? And, are you interested in a particular market (e.g. US, EU, etc.) or broader training on government procurement practices in particular?
If you provide a little more information, I can point you in the right direction.
We could also set up a call and discuss if you'd like. Just shoot me a direct message if you're interested.
Daniel - I recommend you go for it. However, I have two perspectives on this based on experience; and one personal perspective that underlies my decision to take the same course of action you're contemplating. I worked as a US Federal Contracting Officer for almost ten years - the first seven before I attended/completed law school. Subsequently, I have worked in the private sector including large, global agreements in the IT industry.
Experience perspective 1: Some attorneys and paralegals felt threatened in some manner because I had a law degree. Their perspective is that they are "legal" and I should only be dealing with commercial matters, leaving the "legal" issues to them. I've actually heard some in legal oppose the hiring of Contract Management professionals who also possess a law degree. Finally, I also had at least one manager who apparently felt threatened that subordinates (I and five other Contract Managers) had law degrees from colleges and universities from around the world and had told me that he would not agree to hire an "attorney" for a role I had on my team.
Experience perspective 2: Other attorneys and paralegals I have worked with were more self-confident and not threatened by the fact I had a law degree and was licensed to practice law. Instead, we worked together to leverage my legal knowledge/skills to help manage their time. I would escalate issues and have regular touch-point meeting so that they were informed as to ongoing issues and permit us to collaborate and discuss difficult legal/contractual issues. It also gave me more flexibility to negotiate agreements that protected the legal and business interests of the party I worked for without having to go back to "mommy/daddy" each time an issue arose in the negotiations. At the same time, we also had a working knowledge of the limits of my authority and a good working relationship where I could quickly escalate and propose a solution for them to consider and ask questions about - something we called the "4Cs", ("Communicate, Collaborate, Consult and Crosscheck"). I had learned this from a wonderful attorney who had been the general counsel where I had once worked.
Personal perspective: I decided to go to law school because as a US Government Contracting Officer I had to regularly discuss issues with our attorneys. Not having a sound understanding of the broad areas of the law that applied (not just contracts) sometimes caused me confusion when the attorney would try to explain something - particularly when it ultimately impacted the contract or the enforceability of a provision in the contract. I decided to go to law school to gain a better understanding. It resulted in me have a much deeper understanding of contract principles that must be applied and of the concepts we all rely on (whether or not we realize it) when we draft, negotiate, operationalize and enforce our contracts. I recommend you go for it.
• Neptune Marine Service Pty Ltd
If you can afford the time & cost for the legal degree (LLB or JD)- then will be worth considering that.
From my personal experience, some sort of Commercial/ Contracts/ Business law certifications or diploma will give the required knowledge and upper edge for the jobs.
Hi Daniel, I don't believe a law degree is necessary. It depends on the role.
I am legally qualified and I echo Mark's comments. I find that I am better able to articulate the risk I see with my legal friends.
The main thing is do you want to do it? A law degree will give you additional skill such a negotiation etc. It will also give you confidence in the law around contract law, construction, tort and tax.
But a law degree will also give you so much detail on those areas that you won't need all in your role.
• GreyScan Australia Pty Ltd
I was also a Commercial Manager at GE for approx. 4 years and with the company 11 years. Since my redundancy just over a year ago, I have been trying to find a like-for-like Commercial Operations function like we had at GE but a number of Commercial Manager roles sit either in the Finance function or the Legal function, not as their own Commercial Operations function.
I'm contemplating doing a Juris Doctor to gain legal qualifications on top of my BBus and MBA Exec as I don't want to go down a CA/CPA path. Otherwise I am exploring the IACCM certification.
Hope it all goes well for you with the decision,
• Itron, Inc.
Depends on how your organization is structured but typically no. In fact there is a good argument that they should not be lawyers as that role has different specialties.
I like this idea. 15 years ago(!) a colleague tried to introduce 'plain English' contracts to a UK Aerospace manufacturer. It had some success, but ultimately didn't take hold. I am guilty of saying "execute" instead of "sign" and "pursuant to" instead of, er, well nothing really.
Highly appreciated initiative. Increasing the user friendliness of contracts are, in my view, not prioritized. But you are up against a tradition and practice that is hard to change, even through graphic illustrations are proven to have multiple benefits.
Camilla Andersen gave a presentation on Comic Contracts in the last local DK IACCM meeting facilitated by Ramboll. Where you place yourself in the scale of using graphics (visulisations supporting the text or a full blown comic contract) may depend on the case, audience and "environment" you are operating in..
Camilla also provided this link: www.comicbookcontracts.com/
• CitizenSteward International LLC
What is your current career field? Is it any way related to contract/commercial management? Also, are you more interested in working for a private-sector company in commercial contracts, or in the public-sector with government contracts?
My current career field is in banking/financial services as a compliance professional. The only thing I currently do that is remotely related to contract management is review statement of works. It interested me the most and lead me to the decision to pursue contract management as a new career, which is why I am working on the certification. I just need some actual experience. I am open to the idea of being in private or public sector. Any suggestions for volunteer opportunities are welcome.
• Looking For A New Opportunity
Hi Charles. Around 2007 we started to notice that more project management jobs were requiring PMP certification (and the like). Were there no experienced and qualified PMs before then?? Of course not. The PMP certification simply allowed newbies with minimum project experience (as little as 4,500 hours) to get jobs in project management. But you cannot assign leadership of a complex project to a 'green bean' with a PMP, so instead of hiring an experienced PM, hiring organizations have somewhat dumbed down the job requirement. The duties of a PM have switched from someone who identifies and solves your problems, and lead solutions, to someone who can maintain the project schedule, arrange meetings, and track actions on spreadsheets. The "Project Manager" is now a low level functionary in many instances. The PMP is based on the latest version of the PMBOK. I have an electronic copy of the PMBOK 6th Edition, which I will be happy to share with you through email. Then if you have 4,500 hours working as a project manager, and 35 hours of documented project management training (which PMI will charge you US$550 for), then you can take the 200 multiple choice question PMP exam and get a nice framed certificate. With the global challenges with data protection, if you are in the IT industry, you might want to consider going for the PECB ISO/IEC 27005 Lead Risk Manager certification. That might open up more lucrative opportunities for you in the future then the PMP.
• Société Générale
Thank you very much for your advice, Jeff. I think I will go for the PMP then :-)
Hi Sharon, we would very much like to plan in some more dates. Please watch our events pages and we will put up some more dates when available! Alternatively we are getting a number of requests from corproates looking to do on-site bespoke courses: if that is of interest please contact Annelise on: firstname.lastname@example.org.
I´d strongly recommend to look for material in our IACCM library, where, for example, I have just identified this article:
Furthermore, there is a learning module in our CCMP program related, in general, to the different types of contracts and relations and some data can come from there regarding the property field.
Hope this helps!